Be a Producer, Not a Consumer

You are gracious @PatMc a comment like mine could be annoying when your post is filled with altruistism. I’m not sure if I’m just getting old or today’s world makes me question everything I do, every motive to be sure I’m not repeating what I can’t tolerate myself.


Producing means to be making something. First year engineering students are taught that inventory is money and the goal is to sell at the same rate as you produce.

Production means to produce something tangible too. Making apps or software bits isn’t really production…but I do understand how this empty day and age can make people believe that nothing is something.

We have lost sight of the real engineering aspects that built our society, our culture, our nation…and now it rots into oblivion while the ‘new breed’ can only ‘produce’ useless apps that do nothing to fortify or expand our infrastructure.


Many digital producers - it would appear - are ultimately just consumers of themselves…a tad narcissistic it all seems.


It’s interesting to consider why digital producers are producing such products. Is it simply for attention and only to be consumed? Thanks for your comment!


This is so true. I wonder what these apps really do to better our society and culture.


Pretty sure apps aren’t inherently useless.

Most are, but it is OK that you find some of them useful. Whatever it takes to get you to consume more and produce less…

Predominantly, apps get you to spend your money and time on things that produce very little of value to the world. Even the acronym ‘apps’ is lazy and less productive compared to the original term ‘program’. The powers-that-be don’t want any hints to the lessers that they may be being programmed…so they changed the word to something more dumbed-down and more effortless to say…‘apps’.


@Cyborg What an ever profound statement.

We mostly seem to spend most of our limited lives either producing or consuming useless things. Something has to consume all of our time or we’d be bored.

So what are we to do, spend all of our lives producing life-improving discoveries for all of humanity?

That is incompatible with the capitalist system. We need to find a way to reconcile the race to the bottom of the attention economy with what humanity truly needs. Though we all have different opinions it seems almost everyone agrees that what is being produced now is manipulative and wasteful, and our time could be put to better use.


That’s quite a grand statement. It also minimizes the massive individual and societal impacts of digital technologies, including ad-funded apps, for staying informed, spreading awareness, building support networks, helping run small businesses, getting directions, getting quick, affordable rides instead of drunk driving, and 1,000 other things for 1,000 different kinds of people.

Look, we all know digital technologies have major issues, that’s why we’re all here. But I think it’s silly and counterproductive to make such grand dismissive statements like calling apps inherently meaningless or only about wasteful consumption just because you personally might not derive value from them (although I would bet you do too in numerous ways).


Consider how many apps are in the Google Play store database…then consider how many of them actually get used. I would posit that 90%+ of them were a complete waste of time.

Then again, I am from a day and age where pencil and paper were still useful, so what do I know? (perhaps more than you… :wink: )

Manual Dexterity. Lavarse las manos. Wash your hands. Hands are tantamount to huMAN. Man. Woman. Hands.

They can do so much more than type. Make something real.

Make no mistake, I am keenly aware of what is happening in the tech world. I am involved too…

Pat, here is a new approach. @aschrijver suggested to me, and I am trying it out. Without ads and constant bombardment by marketing messages, it is like an empty spot in a noisy shopping mall. When you first create an account, it can be disorienting because you are given a blank canvas. Gulp, you think, I don’t know what to do… But then a thought comes to you and then another, and suddenly you are filling the canvas with color and things you love. So mewe challenges–and allows–you to be creative in new ways. Here’s my link in case you want to join me there.


Liberté! Finally deactivated my FB page. I had about 100 friends, three of whom followed me to A couple of friends who didn’t expressed sadness at my leaving, but I am not worried about them; we are in touch by email, and they have several hundred friends anyway.


Good to hear Pat. You also would need to run a tool such as this to delete all your likes, all of your posts and so on. Otherwise people will still be able to see your activity even if you’ve deactivated your Facebook account.

You should also consider permanent deletion, but I would definitely recommend running a deletion tool first because even if you delete your account, who knows if Facebook will still be showing some your comments.

This Facebook is really a surveillance system, so I recommend you delete all you can and never use it again.


Thanks for the good advice, Free. A few comments here about my presence on FB:

Re pictures: I tried to refrain from posting pictures of myself. When a friend posted a selfie he took of himself and me, I was pretty surprised. But respecting his wish to share the moment, I let the picture stay.

Re political views: I expressed these in indirect ways: by sharing articles, petitions, cartoons, and the like.

Nonetheless, someone trying to compile a portrait of me would have a pretty easy time of guessing my education, background, opinions, and voting habits.

Aren’t we divulging these things all the time, though? Google is reading our email–or at least scanning it for keywords–and can’t profiles of us be constructed from what we’ve posted at this forum?

I suppose there’s nothing too dangerous about being able to be found online, unless you have a need to stay hidden. But still it’s an important safety precaution to stay hidden just in case so good that you’ve taken care.

The way the internet and devices have developed it seems almost impossible to have privacy these days – very few services respect our privacy. I think the main people tracking us are numerous companies building advertising profiles and governments looking for criminals or to wage hybrid warfare (propaganda). But who knows, maybe spammers and criminals are tracking us too? Maybe somebody you know wants to search for your past Facebook activity? I’m sure we only see a small part of what’s going on and too much is done in the shadows.

Thanks for your response.

I think some of these things are just habits that develop as one gets older: don’t draw attention to yourself; be careful where you put down your keys and who you speak to; and so forth. The kind of openness or exhibitionism that FB and other social sites encourage is most dangerous for young people—especially pre-teens and teens who are loath to listen to adults.

A few odd things have happened to me: a site that I only browsed ended up charging me for an item it didn’t sell. I reported this to my bank, but the person I spoke to merely replied that I’d perhaps forgotten buying the item. This was several years ago, so the same bank is not cavalier anymore.

I agree that people are observing us and looking for weaknesses in our online activity. Woe be to those who are careless—or so addicted that they can’t stop.

Great link to explain cell phone overuse!! Can you post this separate as well John? Maybe post in awareness or time well spent category somewhere?

Creating self awareness on phone use will lead to better informed decisions on how to spend their time.